Typical Calvinist respone. Almost all resort to name calling and telling people they dont understand. Your lens for viewing scripture is not 100% accurate. You go ahead and bow out, but as for calling me arrogant just remember, i'm not the one running around declaring myself the elect of God because I feel I have faith. You don't know what you're gonna do in the future, through you're lens God decides that, so you better hope you're a true vessel of mercy and not a vessel of wrath that God is simply using right now. As for me, I'll wait for God to declare me elect at the end. Hebrews 3:14. The institutional church has been a hot mess for years, ever since Constantine, so keep adhering to the teeachings of men from the 1500's who weren't inspired by God the way the original Apostles were all you want to.