[b]Silent_K wrote:[/b] [quote]We are [i]for[/i] Christ! We are called to proclaim [i]Him[/i] It was He that drew us out of darkness. Without him, we are no better off than those that we are so quick to call judgment on. Let us not too quickly forget that. Rather than attacking gays, should we not show them the same love that Christ showed to us? Remember it's God's job to judge and punish for sin, not ours.[/quote] Rating +1.

Never mind. I see what you're saying now :)

[b]Silent_K wrote:[/b] [quote]Y'know there was one (I think important) part of the OP that has generally been ignored in this thread and I'd like to bring it into the discussion. [b]theycallherlove wrote:[/b] [quote]So why is it that gay's are always being attacked by the church?[/quote] Now I think it's fair to say that [i]most[/i] of the people that consider themselves evangelical Christians are opposed to homosexuality and believe it is a sin (as I do). Research conducted by the Barna Group, found that for as much as 91% of Americans, outside of the church between the ages of 16 & 29, the first thing that comes to mind when they hear Christian is "antihomosexual". (from the book unChristian by David Kinnaman and Gabe Lyons p. 28). theycallherlove's stance on the subject is the overwhelmingly popular opinion for her demographic. I'll agree with most of you that righteous zeal against something that is a sin is a good thing. But why is antihomosexuality what we are known for? Why is this what *my* generation defines Christianity as? Was this what the early church was known for? Was this what [i]Christ[/i] was known for? Have we forgotten what we are really about as Christians? [b]I Peter 2:9-12[/b] (ESV) [color=#0000ff]But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. 11 Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh, which wage war against your soul. 12 Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation.[/color] As Kinnaman and Lyons put it [i]We have become famous for what we oppose, rather who we are for.[/i] (unChristian p. 26). We are [i]for[/i] Christ! We are called to proclaim [i]Him[/i] It was He that drew us out of darkness. Without him, we are no better off than those that we are so quick to call judgment on. Let us not too quickly forget that. Rather than attacking gays, should we not show them the same love that Christ showed to us? Remember it's God's job to judge and punish for sin, not ours.[/quote] *approves*

Well, To begin, I am Missionary Baptist, so this is from our (my) point-of-view. The Bible specifically says that Homosexuality is a sin, just like lying, adultry, ect... We believe that you are not a Christian until you are saved. When you are saved you want to not sin anymore, you want to live more like Christ and we do this by reading our Bibles and see how he wants us to live. It will NOT be an easy process, it is very hard, and when you get saved the Devil attacks you even more, and it gets worse when you are called to teach our preach the Gospel. I mean it is wrong to be: a prejudice liar, a drunkard, a "potty-mouth", an arrogant-person, to love money more than God. That is why we should not down Gays, because they have chosen to be Gay, but rather show them the love of christ, because Romans 5:8 makes it very clear that not one person is worthy of Jesus.

Homosexuality is completely wrong, a sin, as you've all stated. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10-- [i]Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, [b]homosexuals[/b], thieves, greedy people, drunkards, abusers, and swindlers- [b]none[/b] of these will have a share in the Kingdom of God.[/i] Because of that, I don't believe homosexuals will enter the kingdom of heaven. Plain and simple. You can be gay and then become, well, [i]not[/i] gay, and if you do that you have the door of God's kingdom reopened to you. You can't be a homosexual. That's not discrimination on my part, that's what the Bible says, does it not?